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01:31:20 PM Fy 16 Budget Overview: Department of Department of Health and Social Services
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FY16 Dept. of Health & Social Services
                  HOUSE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                       
                     January 26, 2015                                                                                           
                         1:29 p.m.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:29:54 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  called the House Finance  Committee meeting                                                                    
to order at 1:29 p.m.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mark Neuman, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Steve Thompson, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Dan Saddler, Vice-Chair                                                                                          
Representative Bryce Edgmon                                                                                                     
Representative Les Gara                                                                                                         
Representative Lynn Gattis                                                                                                      
Representative David Guttenberg                                                                                                 
Representative Scott Kawasaki                                                                                                   
Representative Cathy Munoz                                                                                                      
Representative Lance Pruitt                                                                                                     
Representative Tammie Wilson                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
None                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
ALSO PRESENT                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Valerie  Davidson, Commissioner,  Department  of Health  and                                                                    
Social   Services;  Sana   Efird,  Assistant   Commissioner,                                                                    
Finance and  Management Services,  Department of  Health and                                                                    
Social Services;  Amanda Ryder, Budget  Analyst, Legislative                                                                    
Finance   Division;  Jon   Sherwood,  Deputy   Commissioner,                                                                    
Department of  Health and Social Services;  Margaret Brodie,                                                                    
Director,  Health Care  Services, Department  of Health  and                                                                    
Social Services; Representative Liz Vazquez.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
FY 16  BUDGET OVERVIEW:  DEPARTMENT OF DEPARTMENT  OF HEALTH                                                                    
AND SOCIAL SERVICES                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman passed the gavel to Vice-Chair Saddler.                                                                         
Vice-Chair Saddler welcomed the department.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
^FY 16  BUDGET OVERVIEW: DEPARTMENT OF  DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH                                                                  
AND SOCIAL SERVICES                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
1:31:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
VALERIE  DAVIDSON, COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT  OF HEALTH  AND                                                                    
SOCIAL  SERVICES  (DHSS),  introduced herself  and  provided                                                                    
information  on her  personal  and professional  background.                                                                    
She had  attended Head Start as  a child and spoke  in favor                                                                    
of the  program. She had  attended the University  of Alaska                                                                    
in Fairbanks and Juneau. She  highlighted her past work as a                                                                    
teacher. She  had begun  her career  at the  Yukon Kuskokwim                                                                    
Health  Corporation.  She shared  that  for  the past  eight                                                                    
years  she  worked  for  the  Alaska  Native  Tribal  Health                                                                    
Consortium  (ANTHC) based  in  Anchorage. Additionally,  she                                                                    
had  served  as  chair  of  the  National  Tribal  Technical                                                                    
Advisory  Group to  the Centers  for  Medicare and  Medicaid                                                                    
Services. She  believed there were  tremendous opportunities                                                                    
for  partnerships in  Alaska and  for leveraging  both human                                                                    
and financial resources.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
1:35:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson  provided a  PowerPoint  presentation                                                                    
titled  Department  of  Health  and  Social  Services  House                                                                    
Finance:  FY2016  Department  Overview."  She  moved  to  an                                                                    
organization  chart on  slide 2.  She introduced  department                                                                    
staff. She pointed out that  the Office of Behavioral Health                                                                    
had  been moved  from the  Medicaid and  Health Care  Policy                                                                    
section  to the  Family, Community  and Integrated  Services                                                                    
section.  Additionally,  Public  Assistance had  moved  from                                                                    
Family, Community  and Integrated  Services to  Medicaid and                                                                    
Health Care  Policy. She believed the  Offices of Children's                                                                    
Services, Juvenile Justice, and  Behavioral Health were more                                                                    
closely aligned  when working towards the  state's effort to                                                                    
stop some  of the cycles that  were a part of  daily life in                                                                    
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Saddler  asked   committee   members  to   keep                                                                    
questions at a minimum during the presentation.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:37:00 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SANA EFIRD,  ASSISTANT COMMISSIONER, FINANCE  AND MANAGEMENT                                                                    
SERVICES, DEPARTMENT  OF HEALTH AND SOCIAL  SERVICES, turned                                                                    
to  slide 3  that  contained the  department's  total FY  14                                                                    
funds.  She detailed  that  unrestricted  and federal  funds                                                                    
accounted  for   approximately  the  same  portion   of  the                                                                    
department's   funding   [49    percent   and   45   percent                                                                    
respectively].    Additional   funding    sources   included                                                                    
designated general funds  and other funds. The  graph to the                                                                    
right provided a  breakout of the funding  sources by dollar                                                                    
amount. Slide  4 included  a breakout  of actual  funding by                                                                    
division in percentages and dollar amounts.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
1:38:13 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman discussed  the growth  rate in  the state's                                                                    
aging  population and  how it  impacted the  state's Pioneer                                                                    
Homes.  He   remarked  that   medical  costs   continued  to                                                                    
increase. He  wondered if  the presentation  included growth                                                                    
projections and how the department  planned to deal with the                                                                    
growth. Ms.  Efird replied that  the department  was looking                                                                    
at the Pioneer  Homes. She detailed that  the homes provided                                                                    
three levels  of care including low,  medium, and high-need.                                                                    
She  elaborated  that the  number  of  high-level needs  had                                                                    
increased. She  could not  speak to  the specific  plan, but                                                                    
the department was looking at ways to deal with changes.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman spoke to juvenile  justice. He noted that in                                                                    
recent  history  there had  been  an  effort to  move  civil                                                                    
justice work over to tribal  organizations to increase local                                                                    
control. He  wondered if  there was  an opportunity  to work                                                                    
with tribal  organizations to take  over facilities  such as                                                                    
the juvenile justice center in Bethel.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson  believed the  department was  open to                                                                    
any possibility  in order to  provide care as close  to home                                                                    
as possible and in the  most culturally appropriate way. She                                                                    
believed doing so provided better  outcomes for children and                                                                    
families. The  department was looking  at ways to  do things                                                                    
differently in order to achieve the goal.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman believed  if tribal  organizations such  as                                                                    
the Yukon Kuskokwim Health Corporation  could take over some                                                                    
programs it would be possible  to develop a long-term budget                                                                    
plan.  He   observed  that  the  organizations   could  take                                                                    
advantage  of increased  federal funds  that were  currently                                                                    
not accessible to the state.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:42:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler  remarked  that  the angel  was  in  the                                                                    
details.  He  noted that  the  committee  would discuss  the                                                                    
issue in depth with the  Division of Juvenile Justice during                                                                    
an upcoming DHSS Finance Subcommittee meeting.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson  communicated that  the  presentation                                                                    
would address  the department's  priority of  leveraging the                                                                    
opportunities  with tribal  partners  potentially in  tribal                                                                    
health or  tribal social services and  welfare programs. She                                                                    
believed the opportunities existed,  the time was right, and                                                                    
that people were ready for the change.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Efird addressed the DHSS  FY 15 management plan on slide                                                                    
5.  The  chart  included  all  funds for  a  total  of  $2.7                                                                    
billion.  She  relayed  that   Medicaid  accounted  for  the                                                                    
largest  percentage of  the pie  chart at  $1.7 billion  (62                                                                    
percent of the DHSS budget).  She elaborated that the budget                                                                    
also included 11  percent in other formula  funds, 7 percent                                                                    
in non-formula grants  and benefits, and 20  percent in non-                                                                    
formula  other  line  items  (including  personal  services,                                                                    
travel,  commodities, and  supplies). She  discussed formula                                                                    
funded programs on slide 6,  which accounted for the largest                                                                    
portion of the department's  budget. She read the definition                                                                    
of a formula program:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     A  program with  specific  eligibility standards  which                                                                    
     guarantees  a  specific  level   of  benefits  for  any                                                                    
     recipient who qualifies.  The eligibility standards and                                                                    
     benefits must be based in statute and/or regulations.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
1:45:26 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Efird read  a list of the  department's formula programs                                                                    
on slide 7:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Public Assistance                                                                                                          
        · Adult Temporary Assistance Program                                                                                    
        · Adult Public Assistance                                                                                               
        · Child Care Benefits                                                                                                   
        · General Relief Assistance                                                                                             
        · Tribal Assistance Programs                                                                                            
        · Senior Benefits Payment Program                                                                                       
        · PFD Hold Harmless                                                                                                     
        · Energy Assistance Program                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Medicaid Services                                                                                                          
        · Behavioral Health Medicaid Services                                                                                   
        · Children's Medicaid Services                                                                                          
        · Adult Preventive Dental Medicaid Services                                                                             
        · Health Care Medicaid Services                                                                                         
        · Senior/Disabilities Medicaid Services                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson  asked  where the  legislature  could                                                                    
make  changes in  the formula  programs. She  wondered which                                                                    
programs  were  federally  mandated  at  a  certain  poverty                                                                    
level. She  wondered if the  legislature had the  ability to                                                                    
determine how  much over the  poverty level  something would                                                                    
be. She wondered  where it was possible  for the legislature                                                                    
to make changes and where it was not.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Efird replied  that the  department  would address  the                                                                    
information for each of the  formula programs. She continued                                                                    
reading from slide 7:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Children's Services                                                                                                        
        · Subsidized Adoptions/Guardianship                                                                                     
        · Foster Care Special Need                                                                                              
        · Foster Care Augmented Rate                                                                                            
        · Foster Care Base Rate                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Efird moved to slide  8 titled "Service Population." The                                                                    
slide depicted  the magnitude of  the DHSS programs  and who                                                                    
they impacted  in the Alaska  population. She  detailed that                                                                    
over the  past several  years the  department had  worked on                                                                    
performance  measures,   and  results-based   budgeting  and                                                                    
accountability.  Subsequently,  three  priorities  had  been                                                                    
identified  including: 1)  health  and  wellness across  the                                                                    
lifespan; 2) health  care access delivery and  value; and 3)                                                                    
safe    and   responsible    individuals,   families,    and                                                                    
communities.  She elaborated  that  each  of the  priorities                                                                    
contained  core   services;  division   presentations  would                                                                    
provide  more detailed  core  services  and priorities.  She                                                                    
pointed  to  a   chart  showing  a  continuum   of  ages  of                                                                    
individuals   served  by   the  department   beginning  with                                                                    
prenatal through death.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:48:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler asked  Ms. Efird  to clarify  that there                                                                    
was  a timeline  of  the  human lifespan  and  not a  direct                                                                    
correlation between the chart and core services offered.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Efird  replied that the  chart demonstrated that  all of                                                                    
the  DHSS  priorities  spanned throughout  the  life  of  an                                                                    
individual.  She  relayed  that  each  division  planned  to                                                                    
indicate the time in an individual's life that it targeted.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler agreed  that  the  information would  be                                                                    
helpful. He  noted that Representative  Gara had  joined the                                                                    
committee earlier.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Efird  moved to slide  9 pertaining to  the department's                                                                    
total FY 15 budget of  $2,692,324,500. The slide showed that                                                                    
the department aligned  its current budget with  each of the                                                                    
three  priorities  down  to  the  seven  core  services,  by                                                                    
division,  and finally  with a  breakout  of the  divisions'                                                                    
budgets. The intention of the  slide was to show the process                                                                    
the department had undergone over  the past couple of years.                                                                    
She  used  the  Alaska  Pioneer Homes  as  an  example;  the                                                                    
division's total  budget rolled  up into the  core services,                                                                    
which correlated  across the seven  core services and  up to                                                                    
the priorities.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:53:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Efird further explained that  slide 9 intended to depict                                                                    
the department's  priorities and  where it was  spending its                                                                    
money.   Performance  measures   had   been  developed   and                                                                    
divisions  were   reporting  to   the  department   on  data                                                                    
collected in order  to obtain a baseline for  the success of                                                                    
division programs.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson  wondered about current  mandates from                                                                    
the Alaska  Constitution and  federal government  related to                                                                    
existing programs. She surmised  that some programs could be                                                                    
done by the private sector if  the state was not mandated to                                                                    
provide  them.   Ms.  Efird  agreed  that   looking  at  the                                                                    
financial  situation  was  the appropriate  next  step.  She                                                                    
believed the  question was related to  formula programs that                                                                    
were currently under the department's purview.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara referred to  the governor's formula that                                                                    
outlined how  cuts would be  made to agency budgets.  One of                                                                    
the  components looked  at whether  an  agency's budget  had                                                                    
grown. He  remarked that  over the past  four to  five years                                                                    
the  number of  youths  in foster  care  had increased  from                                                                    
1,700 to over 2,300, which  accounted for a budget increase.                                                                    
He detailed  that the former governor  and DHSS commissioner                                                                    
had determined that  hiring support staff for  the Office of                                                                    
Children's Services  (OCS); the recommendation had  been for                                                                    
50,  but only  15 had  been implemented.  He noted  that the                                                                    
decision to  add new staff had  been based off of  the 1,700                                                                    
children  in  foster care,  but  the  number had  risen.  He                                                                    
understood  deep cuts  in areas  where  people could  handle                                                                    
them and stand up for  themselves; however, he asked whether                                                                    
the  state was  sensitive to  young children  who could  not                                                                    
handle less infrastructure.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Davidson   answered    that   currently   the                                                                    
department did not  have all of the budget  details from the                                                                    
Office of  Management and  Budget. She  relayed that  one of                                                                    
her  priorities was  addressing  child  welfare issues.  She                                                                    
relayed  that  unfortunately   there  were  currently  2,400                                                                    
children  in out  of home  placements throughout  the state.                                                                    
She noted that the state  was effectively the parents of the                                                                    
children. She believed it was  important to take measures in                                                                    
order  to   do  things  differently  in   order  to  protect                                                                    
children. She reiterated her commitment  to working on child                                                                    
welfare matters.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
1:57:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler relayed  that  there  would be  results-                                                                    
based  budget training  in the  committee room  the upcoming                                                                    
Friday and Saturday.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman  wondered if there  had been an  increase in                                                                    
funding for foster  care in recent years.  Ms. Efird replied                                                                    
in  the affirmative.  She detailed  that  the increases  had                                                                    
been  based on  some litigation  for increases  in base-rate                                                                    
foster care  payments. There had  also been an  increase due                                                                    
to   additional  positions   added   in   the  prior   year.                                                                    
Additionally, there was an increase  in the work in progress                                                                    
budget   asking   for   additional   program   receipts   to                                                                    
accommodate the  increase in the  number of children  in out                                                                    
of  home  placement  with the  collection  of  child-support                                                                    
payments that passed through the department.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  stressed  the  importance  of  caring  for                                                                    
foster  children. He  stated that  the legislature  had been                                                                    
working to do what it could related to funding.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Efird  relayed that Commissioner Davidson  would address                                                                    
the department's divisions and their individual missions.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson  communicated   that  the  department                                                                    
contained  eight  divisions  (slide  10).  She  shared  that                                                                    
Vickie Wilson was the acting  director of the Alaska Pioneer                                                                    
Homes division. She introduced  Gina Delrosario the director                                                                    
of  the  Juneau Pioneer  Home.  The  Pioneer Homes  had  649                                                                    
positions, which represented approximately  2 percent of the                                                                    
department's  operating budget.  The homes  were responsible                                                                    
for providing  the highest  quality of life  in a  safe home                                                                    
environment  for older  Alaskans and  veterans. She  relayed                                                                    
that further detail  would be provided by  the divisions [in                                                                    
finance subcommittee  meetings]. She addressed  the Division                                                                    
of Behavioral  Health and introduced  the director  Al Wall.                                                                    
The  division  housed  374 positions  and  accounted  for  5                                                                    
percent of  the department's  operating budget;  its mission                                                                    
was  to manage  an integrated  and comprehensive  behavioral                                                                    
health system  based on  sound policy,  effective practices,                                                                    
and partnerships.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson  moved to  slide 11 and  addressed OCS                                                                    
and the Health Care Services Division:                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Office of Children's Services                                                                                              
     Christy Lawton (Director)                                                                                                  
        · 509 Positions                                                                                                         
        · $143,709.6 - FY2015 Management Plan                                                                                   
        · 5.34 percent of DHSS FY2015 Operating Budget                                                                          
        · Prevent and respond to child maltreatment in                                                                          
          order to ensure safe children and strong                                                                              
          families.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Health Care Services                                                                                                       
     Margaret Brodie (Director)                                                                                                 
        · 131 Positions                                                                                                         
        · $24,391.6 - FY2015 Management Plan                                                                                    
        · 0.91 percent of DHSS FY2015 Operating Budget                                                                          
        · Manage health care coverage for Alaskans in need.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:01:50 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson addressed  the Divisions  of Juvenile                                                                    
Justice and Public Assistance on slide 12:                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Division of Juvenile Justice                                                                                               
     Karen Forrest (Director)                                                                                                   
        · 503 Positions                                                                                                         
        · $58,824.7 - FY2015 Management Plan                                                                                    
        · 2.18 percent of DHSS FY2015 Operating Budget                                                                          
        · Hold juvenile offenders accountable for their                                                                         
          behavior,  promote the  safety and  restoration of                                                                    
          victims and communities,  and assist offenders and                                                                    
          their  families in  developing  skills to  prevent                                                                    
          crime.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Division of Public Assistance                                                                                              
     Ron Kreher (Acting Director)                                                                                               
        · 566 Positions                                                                                                         
        · $331,226.7 - FY2015 Management Plan                                                                                   
        · 12.30 percent of DHSS FY2015 Operating Budget                                                                         
        · Provide self-sufficiency and provide for basic                                                                        
          living expenses to Alaskans in need.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson highlighted  the  Division of  Public                                                                    
Health and the Division  of Senior and Disabilities Services                                                                    
on slide 13:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Division of Public Health                                                                                                  
     Dr. Jay Butler (CMO/Director)                                                                                              
        · 488 Positions                                                                                                         
        · $138,502.8 - FY2015 Management Plan                                                                                   
        · 5.14 percent of DHSS FY2015 Operating Budget                                                                          
       · Protect and promote the health of Alaskans.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Senior and Disabilities Services                                                                                           
     Duane Mayes (Director)                                                                                                     
        · 171 Positions                                                                                                         
        · $63,385.8 - FY2015 Management Plan                                                                                    
        · 2.35 percent of DHSS FY2015 Operating Budget                                                                          
        · Promote the independence of Alaskan seniors and                                                                       
          persons    with    physical   and    developmental                                                                    
          disabilities.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Davidson  introduced   additional  department                                                                    
staff.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
2:05:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMANDA RYDER, BUDGET  ANALYST, LEGISLATIVE FINANCE DIVISION,                                                                    
relayed that  many of  the graphs  in the  presentation were                                                                    
built on the prior year  because information for the current                                                                    
year  was forthcoming.  She addressed  slide 14  that showed                                                                    
the  DHSS total  agency operations  non-formula and  formula                                                                    
budget  (unrestricted and  designated  general funds  only).                                                                    
The blue line represented the  percentage of the DHSS budget                                                                    
compared to all department  budgets. She highlighted that in                                                                    
the FY 06  management plan the DHSS  general funds accounted                                                                    
for 22  percent of agency  operations; the number  had grown                                                                    
to  approximately 26  percent. She  explained that  Medicaid                                                                    
was  a  huge   driver  of  the  budget  and   had  grown  at                                                                    
approximately 150  percent since FY  06. She noted  that the                                                                    
data was based on FY 06 to FY 15 management plans.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  recalled an  increase of  2,000 state                                                                    
employees from FY  06 to FY 15. He wondered  how many of the                                                                    
new  employees were  attributed to  DHSS. Ms.  Ryder relayed                                                                    
her intent to address the question on a subsequent slide.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman wondered  how much of the growth  was due to                                                                    
federal government requirements. Ms.  Ryder replied that she                                                                    
did not  have an  exact amount; however,  Medicaid accounted                                                                    
for a significant portion.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair   Neuman   remarked   that  the   state's   current                                                                    
contribution to  Medicaid was about $700  million. He stated                                                                    
that the  rate had been  growing at approximately  9 percent                                                                    
in the  past 10 years.  He attributed a  significant portion                                                                    
of the growth to Medicaid.  Ms. Ryder agreed. She elaborated                                                                    
that  as  the division  graphs  were  looked at  during  the                                                                    
upcoming month it  would be possible to  look more carefully                                                                    
at what was  federally required and what had  grown over the                                                                    
past 10 years by state  choice. She acknowledged that due to                                                                    
the large size  of the department it was  difficult to delve                                                                    
into all of  the changes during an overview.  She added that                                                                    
Medicaid  was   the  primary  reason   for  growth   in  the                                                                    
department.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:10:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Gara  referred   to  testimony   by  former                                                                    
Commissioner Bill Streur related  to the growth in Medicaid.                                                                    
The  chart had  showed that  an increased  number of  people                                                                    
were on  Medicaid, Alaska's cost of  medical services ranked                                                                    
first or second  in the nation, and the  increase in medical                                                                    
costs in  Alaska ranked  first or second  in the  nation. He                                                                    
wondered if the  department had been able to  do anything to                                                                    
address the state's annual rise in medical costs.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ryder deferred the question  to the department. She knew                                                                    
DHSS had been working hard to reduce healthcare costs.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Efird  pointed  to  the steep  cost  increases  due  to                                                                    
Medicaid  [beginning  with the  FY  12  management plan]  on                                                                    
slide 14. She communicated that  the chart showed a decrease                                                                    
in  cost [in  FY  10  and FY  11]  due  to the  department's                                                                    
receipt  of  an  enhanced  federal  participation  rate  and                                                                    
American Recovery  and Reinvestment Act (ARRA)  funding. She                                                                    
elaborated  that   DHSS  had  been   working  to   stem  the                                                                    
unsustainable  increase in  Medicaid growth  through various                                                                    
initiatives.  She relayed  that  some  benefit had  resulted                                                                    
through the use of generic  prescription drugs and an effort                                                                    
to reduce the number of  "super utilizers" of emergency room                                                                    
services.  She believed  the  committee  would hear  further                                                                    
detail  about the  successes  and  failures during  division                                                                    
presentations.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  noted  that a  medical  cost  increase                                                                    
would occur  when providers caught  up on their  billing. He                                                                    
noted that the issue had  been lingering for three years and                                                                    
did not represent a new administration problem.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:13:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Amanda  Ryder advanced  to  slide 15  that  showed the  DHSS                                                                    
budget from FY  06 to FY 15 by line  item. She reported that                                                                    
grants and benefits  accounted for the largest  piece of the                                                                    
department's  budget; the  majority of  which was  Medicaid.                                                                    
She  detailed that  the  department  had approximately  $2.1                                                                    
billion  in grants;  about  $87 million  of  the figure  was                                                                    
behavioral health, $77  million went to OCS  (for items like                                                                    
payment  to  foster  care parents),  and  $1.6  billion  was                                                                    
associated  with Medicaid.  She added  that the  Division of                                                                    
Public Assistance also provided  numerous grants and various                                                                    
programs, which accounted for  approximately $239 million of                                                                    
the budget.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.   Ryder  addressed   salary  adjustment   increases  and                                                                    
personal services costs on slide  16.  She reported that the                                                                    
total   cost  of   personal   services   had  increased   by                                                                    
approximately $121 million  or 52 percent between  FY 06 and                                                                    
FY 15. She pointed to the  bar chart on slide 16 and relayed                                                                    
that the lower  light purple portion of  the bar represented                                                                    
personal services  less the salary adjustments.  She relayed                                                                    
that salary  adjustments were included  in the budget  on an                                                                    
annual  basis,  which  included  contractual  increases  and                                                                    
health insurance increases. Around  2008 the adjustments had                                                                    
been for  retirement when the percentage  had increased from                                                                    
11.5 or  12.5 percent up to  22 percent. She noted  that the                                                                    
Legislative Finance  Division (LFD)  did not budget  by line                                                                    
items for  all funds;  it could  not extract  general funds;                                                                    
however, it could make an  estimate based on percentage. She                                                                    
estimated  that  approximately  $22   million  of  the  $121                                                                    
million  increase  was   associated  with  health  insurance                                                                    
increases.  She  detailed that  the  cost  had increased  by                                                                    
about $6,500  per employee since  FY 06. She  estimated that                                                                    
increased   retirement  accounted   for  approximately   $36                                                                    
million. The last  bar of the chart represented  how much of                                                                    
the increase  was due to contractual,  health insurance, and                                                                    
retirement increases.  She noted  that most of  the increase                                                                    
was attributable to the three items.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
2:17:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ryder noted that DHSS  had gained new positions over the                                                                    
years. She  turned to slide  17 related to  the department's                                                                    
budgeted  positions.  The   slide  depicted  the  governor's                                                                    
request   from  the   prior  year,   but  did   not  include                                                                    
approximately 10  positions added by the  legislature to OCS                                                                    
(10  positions  had  been added,  but  the  legislature  had                                                                    
funded   about   14   positions).  The   department   housed                                                                    
approximately  3,500   employees;  there  had  been   a  net                                                                    
increase  of  135  positions, but  permanent  positions  had                                                                    
increased by  278. She noted  the department had  not wanted                                                                    
to  increase the  number of  permanent full-time  employees;                                                                    
therefore, there had been an  aligning within the department                                                                    
to swap with permanent part-time and temporary positions.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Munoz asked  how  many  of the  department's                                                                    
3,400 positions were dedicated to  Medicaid services and how                                                                    
many  may  be  needed  for  Medicaid  expansion.  Ms.  Efird                                                                    
responded  that she  could follow  up with  the detail.  She                                                                    
communicated that  there were a  number of  divisions within                                                                    
the department  that involved Medicare. She  elaborated that                                                                    
the  Division   of  Public  Assistance   housed  eligibility                                                                    
technicians, whereas  the processing  of claims  was handled                                                                    
by  the Division  of Health  Care Services.  Other divisions                                                                    
that contained pieces of Medicaid  included the Divisions of                                                                    
Behavioral Health, Senior and  Disability Services, and some                                                                    
children  services that  had been  picked  up by  Behavioral                                                                    
Health.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson   elaborated  that  she   planned  to                                                                    
address  administrative costs  and  the  number of  expected                                                                    
positions pertaining to Medicaid.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler  asked  the department  to  provide  the                                                                    
answer at  a later time.  He noted his preference  to finish                                                                    
the department's presentation.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Wilson wondered  how to  determine how  many                                                                    
people were involved in providing  DHSS services in some way                                                                    
including those  funded by  grants. She  gave an  example of                                                                    
grantees providing work for the  department. She stated that                                                                    
for  every 200  Alaskans there  was  1 person  in DHSS.  She                                                                    
surmised that the  statement was only part of  the story due                                                                    
to the numerous grants. She  added that the department could                                                                    
get back to her with an answer.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman relayed  that  someone was  looking at  the                                                                    
grants   and   behavioral    health   issue   discussed   by                                                                    
Representative  Wilson.  He  asked  about  the  department's                                                                    
vacancy rate.  Ms. Efird replied  that the vacancy  rate was                                                                    
approximately 8 to 10 percent.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
2:23:56 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman followed  up and asked how  the vacancy rate                                                                    
compared  to other  departments. He  wondered if  the number                                                                    
was  high  or  low.  He thought  the  Division  of  Juvenile                                                                    
Justice had  a low turnover  rate with an average  length of                                                                    
employment  of 18  years, whereas  OCS had  a high  turnover                                                                    
rate.  He  reasoned  that  there  were  inefficiencies  when                                                                    
employees  were  lost  after   they  had  been  trained.  He                                                                    
wondered what could be done to rectify the problem.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Efird answered  that  she  did not  know  how the  DHSS                                                                    
vacancy rate compared to the  rate in other departments. She                                                                    
would look  into providing the  information. She  noted that                                                                    
there  were  specific  positions   that  were  difficult  to                                                                    
recruit   for  throughout   all   the   divisions  such   as                                                                    
information   technology   programmers.   Frontline   social                                                                    
workers  for  OCS in  rural  areas  were also  difficult  to                                                                    
recruit.  However,  there  were other  divisions  with  very                                                                    
long-term  employees  such  as   the  Division  of  Juvenile                                                                    
Justice  and  the Pioneer  Homes.  She  elaborated that  the                                                                    
department  was  looking  at ways  to  do  recruitment  that                                                                    
focused  on the  needs  of what  each division  specifically                                                                    
needed to target for the positions.  The goal was to match a                                                                    
person to  a position and  to provide the individual  with a                                                                    
true picture of  what the position entailed in  an effort to                                                                    
maintain an employee for a longer period of time.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman   believed  the  issue  was   important  in                                                                    
relation to the budget.  He asked for information pertaining                                                                    
to   the  department's   outreach  and   training  programs,                                                                    
particularly  for  OCS.   He  wondered  about  cost-benefits                                                                    
associated  with the  efforts. He  remarked that  many times                                                                    
the  state  could  not  find   people  to  fill  the  vacant                                                                    
positions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  referred to  reports from OCS  that the                                                                    
division  only  expected  social  workers  to  stay  in  the                                                                    
position for two years. He  elaborated that a portion of the                                                                    
two-year  period was  spent on  training and  then employees                                                                    
left  due to  burnout. He  remarked that  the social  worker                                                                    
caseloads  at OCS  were 50  to 100  percent higher  than the                                                                    
national  standard.  He  reasoned  that  the  problem  would                                                                    
persist  as   long  as  the  caseloads   remained  high.  He                                                                    
discussed that the turnover was  costly to the state. He did                                                                    
not believe a two-year retention average was satisfactory.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Davidson   recognized  the   challenge.   The                                                                    
department   understood   that    children   needed   stable                                                                    
environments. She  agreed that a high  turnover existed, but                                                                    
she   believed  improvement   would   come  through   better                                                                    
recruiting and  better support of  people in the  very tough                                                                    
jobs. One way the department  could make a difference was by                                                                    
leveraging the  partnerships between state,  federal, tribal                                                                    
entities to do what was  right for children. She opined that                                                                    
one  of  the  ways  to address  turnover  was  by  accessing                                                                    
partnerships.  She stressed  that the  work was  hard enough                                                                    
without  "beating   each  other   up."  She   discussed  the                                                                    
importance of being in the same  room to address how to best                                                                    
serve children. She  spoke to the importance  of the state's                                                                    
acknowledgement  of its  part of  the problem.  She stressed                                                                    
the  importance of  owning up  to the  problems in  order to                                                                    
help the state's children.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:29:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ryder  turned  to  slide 18  that  included  the  total                                                                    
Medicaid formula  appropriations from  FY 06  to FY  15. The                                                                    
chart  included the  management plan  and supplementals  for                                                                    
each year. The budget had  increased from $381 million in FY                                                                    
06 to  $695 million in  FY 15.  She discussed the  intent to                                                                    
discuss the issue further at a later time.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler  pointed to  a supplemental  decrement in                                                                    
FY 09  and asked for  detail. Ms. Ryder replied  that during                                                                    
FY 09 there had been  an enhanced Federal Medical Assistance                                                                    
Percentage (FMAP)  rate that had  increased from  50 percent                                                                    
up  to   60  percent.   She  elaborated  that   the  federal                                                                    
government had  paid for a  significantly larger  portion of                                                                    
the budget, which had saved  the state in general funds. She                                                                    
relayed that when  the enhanced FMAP had  ended, the general                                                                    
funds had to  increase to continue paying  the state's share                                                                    
of Medicaid.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler  wondered if federal assistance  had been                                                                    
offered  in FY  13 as  well [supplemental  funding was  also                                                                    
shown  as a  decrement in  FY 13  on the  slide]. Ms.  Ryder                                                                    
replied  that there  had been  savings that  occurred, which                                                                    
had  resulted in  a negative  $25 million  supplemental. She                                                                    
added  that  the  unusual occurrence  had  been  a  pleasant                                                                    
surprise.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Guttenberg  addressed reasons listed  for the                                                                    
Medicaid general fund  growth rate (slide 18).  He asked for                                                                    
an   explanation  of   items  listed   including  FairShare,                                                                    
ProShare, FMAP changes, and Rate Rebasing.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ryder deferred the question to the department.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
JON SHERWOOD, DEPUTY COMMISSIONER,  DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND                                                                    
SOCIAL SERVICES, explained that  FairShare and ProShare were                                                                    
financing endeavors  the department  undertook in  the early                                                                    
2000s.  He elaborated  that  FairShare  was associated  with                                                                    
payments  to tribal  providers and  ProShare was  related to                                                                    
payments to  government and private nonprofit  providers. He                                                                    
elaborated that the  items had to do with  the upper payment                                                                    
limit; Medicaid was  limited to what it  could pay providers                                                                    
(for some  services) by the  amount of money  Medicare would                                                                    
have paid  the provider  for providing  comparable services.                                                                    
He  detailed  that the  state  had  taken advantage  of  the                                                                    
opportunity to raise its payments  to providers to the upper                                                                    
limit;  in  return providers  had  been  asked to  assume  a                                                                    
number  of  responsibilities  or  to  return  funds  to  the                                                                    
general fund. He  relayed that a similar  activity had taken                                                                    
place  in the  late  1990s and  early  2000s nationwide.  He                                                                    
explained  that   after  a  period   of  time   the  federal                                                                    
government had  decided that Alaska's  program did  not meet                                                                    
criteria  allowed under  federal law;  therefore, the  state                                                                    
had  to make  adjustments  to its  federal reimbursement  to                                                                    
reflect  disallowances   for  the  FairShare   and  ProShare                                                                    
programs.  The chart  reflected  adjustments  that had  been                                                                    
made. The  state had  to fund  the adjustments  when federal                                                                    
funding had been reduced.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler   surmised  that  the  state   had  been                                                                    
creative   [in  the   financing   endeavors]   and  had   to                                                                    
subsequently  pay funding  back.  Mr.  Sherwood agreed,  but                                                                    
used the word "aggressive" in place of creative.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:35:59 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg asked  for verification  that the                                                                    
costs  were  not  above  the  rate  increases,  but  were  a                                                                    
reflection  of  creative  negotiation  for  rates  that  the                                                                    
federal government  did not agree  with. He wondered  if the                                                                    
reason  was related  to the  escalating costs  of delivering                                                                    
services in the state.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Sherwood  replied that the department  had been creative                                                                    
or aggressive  at a time when  it had been facing  growth in                                                                    
the program and revenue  shortfalls. He believed the federal                                                                    
government  had  decided  that  the  methodology  and  upper                                                                    
payment limits  used by the  state were not  appropriate. He                                                                    
expounded  that the  issue did  not  involve a  disagreement                                                                    
about what  the cost  of healthcare was;  it was  more about                                                                    
what  kinds  of  activities  providers  were  performing  in                                                                    
return for  the enhanced  rate. He  detailed that  the state                                                                    
had increased the rate above  what it would normally pay and                                                                    
had required something in exchange.  He believed the federal                                                                    
government's  concern   had  to   do  with  what   had  been                                                                    
exchanged; the  federal government  felt that the  state had                                                                    
been  using the  rates to  artificially inflate  the federal                                                                    
match.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg asked  for verification  that the                                                                    
department had negotiated a larger  package that the federal                                                                    
government  had  rejected.  Mr.   Sherwood  replied  in  the                                                                    
affirmative. For  example, one  facility made  payments with                                                                    
the  funding   that  was  normally  funded   by  grant-based                                                                    
services.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
2:38:33 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler asked if the  situation provided a lesson                                                                    
for  the state  as it  tried to  share expenses  with tribal                                                                    
partners  and  other  organizations.   He  wondered  if  the                                                                    
experience should be cautionary.                                                                                                
Mr. Sherwood  replied that  it was a  lesson that  the state                                                                    
should  make sure  its federal  partners understood  clearly                                                                    
what the state  was doing prior to demanding  on the revenue                                                                    
the state was expecting from the activities.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson  remarked that  it had been  a classic                                                                    
example of people  believing there was an  agreement, but it                                                                    
had  not been  sufficiently flushed  out. She  discussed the                                                                    
importance of  paying attention to  the details in  order to                                                                    
avoid making the same mistake twice.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg  disputed  the use  of  the  term                                                                    
mistake.  He  applauded  the department  for  trying  to  do                                                                    
bundling or  rate negotiations in  an attempt to  drive down                                                                    
costs. He  remarked that the federal  government disapproved                                                                    
with  the state's  actions in  that regard,  but it  was how                                                                    
most entities in the medical  world operated. He wondered if                                                                    
other states had taken the  same action and gotten away with                                                                    
it.   He  observed   that   Alaska's   medical  costs   were                                                                    
skyrocketing well beyond those in other states.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson  replied   that  the  department  was                                                                    
looking at  the opportunity for Medicaid  expansion to serve                                                                    
as a  catalyst for meaningful Medicaid  reform. She believed                                                                    
it was important to look  at lessons learned by other states                                                                    
to maximize efficiency when delivering services.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
2:41:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ryder  addressed a  graph on  slide 19  that illustrated                                                                    
general  funds  in  each  appropriation  in  DHSS;  Medicaid                                                                    
services  was  the largest  by  far  and dwarfed  all  other                                                                    
appropriations.  Additionally, the  growth for  Medicaid was                                                                    
much  higher than  growth of  any other  appropriations. She                                                                    
turned to slide 20  that included a multi-year appropriation                                                                    
summary  for FY  16 (non-formula  only). The  slide depicted                                                                    
where   large  growth   had  occurred   and  included   both                                                                    
unrestricted and  designated general funds. She  pointed out                                                                    
that behavioral  health was the  highest expenditure  on the                                                                    
chart; however, public health  showed a substantial increase                                                                    
and  had  surpassed  behavioral  health  costs.  The  public                                                                    
health increase  was primarily due to  the implementation of                                                                    
the Vaccine  Assessment Program, which  was paid for  by the                                                                    
assessors. She  advised committee members to  not be alarmed                                                                    
by  the  increase  given  that  most of  the  cost  was  not                                                                    
unrestricted  general  funds.  She relayed  that  the  costs                                                                    
would be  covered in further  detail by each division  [at a                                                                    
later date].                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Edgmon  referred to  an increase of  135 DHSS                                                                    
employees from FY 06 to FY  15 (slide 17). He moved to slide                                                                    
18   and   noted   the  precipitous   uptick   in   Medicaid                                                                    
appropriations. He  inferred that  an increase  in employees                                                                    
over  a  10-year period  had  been  arguably restrained.  He                                                                    
noted that  the increase  had occurred gradually  over time.                                                                    
He gave the  legislature credit for keeping  the increase at                                                                    
bay.  He  believed  the  graph  on slide  18  was  a  better                                                                    
representation  of  the  overall uptick  in  the  healthcare                                                                    
sector in Alaska.  He thought the issue would  be a relevant                                                                    
topic to address during Medicaid expansion discussions.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:46:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler  agreed that  the legislature had  done a                                                                    
good job.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Edgmon   noted  that  the   legislature  had                                                                    
applied some discipline going forward  in terms of budgetary                                                                    
requirements for DHSS.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ryder  agreed that the  positions did not look  like the                                                                    
graph on  slide 18 pertaining  to Medicaid. She  stated that                                                                    
the graph  on slide 14  looked very similar to  the Medicaid                                                                    
graph  (slide  18);  an indication  that  Medicaid  was  the                                                                    
primary driver  of the budget increase.  However, there were                                                                    
many  pieces  at  play,  which meant  it  was  important  to                                                                    
address each individual appropriation.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair   Saddler   referenced  Representative   Wilson's                                                                    
question about how many new  positions there were in grantee                                                                    
agencies. He asked for clarification  pertaining to the cost                                                                    
increase for public  health on slide 20. He  wondered if the                                                                    
increase  was   related  to  federal  funding   for  vaccine                                                                    
programs.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Ryder  replied  that the  public  health  increase  was                                                                    
related to  the Vaccine  Assessment Program.  She elaborated                                                                    
that  various   providers  were  paying  an   assessment  to                                                                    
purchase   vaccines.  The   program   had  previously   been                                                                    
federally funded, but those funds  were no longer available.                                                                    
She relayed that legislation passed  the prior year provided                                                                    
a vaccine  program for the  state and the  funding mechanism                                                                    
for the program.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler asked  if the state retrieved  any of the                                                                    
revenue  stream after  providing the  funds to  grantees for                                                                    
the  vaccinations. Ms.  Ryder replied  that the  program was                                                                    
funded  by the  assessments. She  explained that  people did                                                                    
pay  for  the vaccines.  She  relayed  that an  unrestricted                                                                    
general fund revenue chart would  look vastly different from                                                                    
the total general fund chart.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:49:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  pointed to slide  18. He referred  to a                                                                    
$313 million increase  in Medicaid general funds  from FY 06                                                                    
to FY  15. He  recalled that  former DHSS  Commissioner Joel                                                                    
Gilbertson under  former Governor Frank Murkowski  had tried                                                                    
to use grant  money instead of traditional  funds, which had                                                                    
become  the   FairShare  and   ProShare  that   the  federal                                                                    
government had put a stop  to three years later. He believed                                                                    
at that point the state had  to begin covering the cost with                                                                    
general funds.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Ryder answered  that she did not know  the details about                                                                    
the budget in question;  however, the FairShare/ProShare had                                                                    
begun  occurring  long  before Commissioner  Gilbertson  was                                                                    
appointed. She  noted that litigation  had resulted  and the                                                                    
federal  government had  ended up  denying the  funds, which                                                                    
accounted  for   the  large  supplemental  budgets   in  the                                                                    
impacted  years; there  had  also  been large  ratifications                                                                    
prior to  that point. She estimated  that FairShare/ProShare                                                                    
had begun around FY 00.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
2:51:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson continued  with  the presentation  on                                                                    
slide 21 titled "Department Updates":                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
        · Alaska's Resource for Integrated Eligibility                                                                          
          Systems (ARIES)                                                                                                       
        · Medicaid Management Information System (MMIS)                                                                         
        · Medicaid Expansion                                                                                                    
        · Medicaid Reform                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson referred  to  the department's  three                                                                    
primary priorities including health  and wellness across the                                                                    
lifespan; healthcare  access, delivery, and value;  and safe                                                                    
and  responsible individual  families  and communities.  She                                                                    
remarked on  the broadness of  the priorities  and addressed                                                                    
where the  department would begin focusing  its efforts. The                                                                    
first primary focus  was to ensure that  Alaskans had access                                                                    
to  healthcare,  which   included  Medicaid  expansion.  She                                                                    
communicated that the  administration believed that Medicaid                                                                    
expansion  could  be  a  catalyst  for  meaningful  Medicaid                                                                    
reform.  She  detailed  that  the  department's  state  plan                                                                    
amendment  that  would  be  submitted  to  the  Centers  for                                                                    
Medicare  and Medicaid  Services  specified  that the  state                                                                    
would  participate as  long  as FMAP  remained  equal to  or                                                                    
greater than 90  percent. She explained that  if the federal                                                                    
government chose  to decrease funding  below 90  percent the                                                                    
state  plan  amendment  authorization would  terminate.  She                                                                    
relayed  that an  in-depth conversation  about the  proposed                                                                    
expansion would occur on February 16.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson stated  that  in the  past there  had                                                                    
been "dueling banjos" reports. She  explained that the Urban                                                                    
Institute Report  commissioned by  the Alaska  Native Tribal                                                                    
Health Consortium (ANTHC) had come  out in February 2013 and                                                                    
the   Lewin  Group   report   commissioned   by  the   prior                                                                    
administration  had come  out in  November  2013. She  noted                                                                    
that while there were some  differences between the reports,                                                                    
the  results   of  both  studies  indicated   that  Medicaid                                                                    
expansion was a  good investment for Alaska.  She noted that                                                                    
the   reports    were   dated;   therefore,    the   current                                                                    
administration would  make public a  new report in  the near                                                                    
future. She  detailed that  the new  report was  authored by                                                                    
Evergreen   Economics;  the   company  had   been  analyzing                                                                    
Medicaid data  for DHSS for  almost a decade.  She discussed                                                                    
that  the   results  were  pretty  consistent;   there  were                                                                    
approximately    42,000     potentially    newly    eligible                                                                    
individuals.  She detailed  that  almost 44  percent of  the                                                                    
individuals   were  employed;   30  percent   were  recently                                                                    
employed.  The data  indicated that  individuals  in the  30                                                                    
percent category  were either recently laid  off or seasonal                                                                    
employees.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler  asked  for   a  cost  estimate  of  the                                                                    
Evergreen Economics report.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:55:15 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Efird would follow up with the information.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara  asked for clarification on  the numbers                                                                    
provided related  to Medicaid  eligibility. He  thought that                                                                    
under Medicaid  expansion eligible individuals would  be 100                                                                    
percent employed.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson  replied   that  under  the  Medicaid                                                                    
expansion  people were  eligible  for coverage  if they  had                                                                    
incomes up to 138 percent  of the federal poverty level. She                                                                    
detailed that an  individual could have a  full-time job and                                                                    
make  about $9.50  or  $9.60 an  hour.  She elaborated  that                                                                    
under   the  expansion   population   43   percent  of   the                                                                    
individuals in  the eligible category  were at  those income                                                                    
levels.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Gara  thought  that individuals  making  the                                                                    
current level  in the 80  percent range were  also employed.                                                                    
He thought 100 percent of  the individuals who would benefit                                                                    
from Medicaid expansion were employed.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler asked members  to hold Medicaid expansion                                                                    
questions for a later time.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
2:57:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson  replied  that  there  were  gaps  in                                                                    
coverage  under existing  Medicaid  programs; the  expansion                                                                    
would eliminate the  gaps. She added that 54  percent of the                                                                    
eligible population  were male and  20 percent of  the group                                                                    
were  between  the ages  of  19  to  34, which  resulted  in                                                                    
significantly  lower per  enrollee spending  than any  other                                                                    
age and gender.  She expounded that no  Medicaid program had                                                                    
ever  reached full  enrollment and  the  department did  not                                                                    
expect enrollment  in Alaska to  reach full  enrollment. The                                                                    
department  expected approximately  20,000 people  to enroll                                                                    
in the  first year and about  27,000 to enroll by  2021. She                                                                    
noted that many individuals  were eligible for Medicaid, but                                                                    
did  not  sign  up.  She communicated  that  the  department                                                                    
expected  administrative   costs  to  be  fully   offset  by                                                                    
savings;  the  costs  were  developed  by  department  staff                                                                    
conducting   the  work.   Some  administrative   costs  were                                                                    
anticipated because  increased eligibility  requirements and                                                                    
the  processing  of payments  would  increase  the need  for                                                                    
additional    eligibility    determinations    and    claims                                                                    
processing.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson believed the  expansion savings in the                                                                    
first  year (FY  16) would  be conservative;  however, there                                                                    
were savings  within the department's control.  She used the                                                                    
state  funded  medical  assistance program  as  an  example;                                                                    
Medicaid  timely  filing rules  were  allowed  for one  year                                                                    
after service  was provided; therefore,  it was  not prudent                                                                    
to  identify all  of the  savings associated  with what  the                                                                    
general  fund paid  for in  the first  year. The  department                                                                    
expected  some  grant  reductions   due  to  the  expansion;                                                                    
however, prior to cutting programs,  it was necessary to get                                                                    
the expansion  funds in the  door. She discussed  the annual                                                                    
Department of  Corrections (DOC) hospital  contract payments                                                                    
that were funded  with general funds. She  detailed that the                                                                    
state was not  taking all of the savings in  the first year,                                                                    
given the time  it would take for the change  to take place.                                                                    
She expected  savings to offset administrative  costs in the                                                                    
first  several  years.  The  department  expected  that  the                                                                    
federal match  would be approximately $204  million by 2021;                                                                    
the state's share would be  under $20 million. She discussed                                                                    
that  as the  state moved  forward  during a  time when  the                                                                    
budget was  contracting, it was  necessary to be  mindful of                                                                    
economic  impact in  the state.  She referred  to a  host of                                                                    
opportunities for the state to  diversify its revenues (e.g.                                                                    
through  liquid  natural gas  and  other).  She was  excited                                                                    
about  the  opportunities;  however, many  of  the  projects                                                                    
would not bring in revenue  for quite some time. She relayed                                                                    
that the  economic impact from  Medicaid expansion  could be                                                                    
approximately  $1.5 billion  in the  first seven  years. She                                                                    
stated  that the  economic benefit  would positively  impact                                                                    
all areas of the state. She  relayed that the issue would be                                                                    
discussed in further depth at a later date.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:02:41 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson continued  to discuss  slide 22.  She                                                                    
remarked that  DHSS currently  had some  significant systems                                                                    
challenges. She communicated that in  order for the state to                                                                    
take  advantage of  Medicaid expansion  and to  continue its                                                                    
current Medicaid  program the  department needed  to improve                                                                    
the enrollment of individuals and  the payment of providers.                                                                    
She  detailed  that  the   department  had  been  undergoing                                                                    
systems conversions related to  eligibility and payments for                                                                    
quite some  time. She addressed  the eligibility  system and                                                                    
relayed  that  there  were two  phases  envisioned  for  the                                                                    
Alaska's  Resource   for  Integrated   Eligibility  Services                                                                    
(ARIES) project.  The first phase  was for the system  to do                                                                    
Medicaid  determinations under  the  new  federal rule  that                                                                    
disregarded  asset   testing  and  was  based   on  modified                                                                    
adjusted gross  income. She highlighted  that it  had become                                                                    
easier  to  qualify  for Medicaid  because  assets  were  no                                                                    
longer considered.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson relayed  that  the  first phase  that                                                                    
would   do    MAGI   [modified   adjusted    gross   income]                                                                    
determinations  was supposed  to  go live  in October  2013;                                                                    
however, the  implementation had  been delayed by  one year.                                                                    
Phase two of  the systems change was aimed  at replacing the                                                                    
old  Medicaid eligibility  System and  the Medicaid  Payment                                                                    
System (that  were both approximately  28 years  old). Phase                                                                    
two was  also intended to ensure  that ARIES was able  to do                                                                    
other  kinds of  public assistance  determinations including                                                                    
Temporary  Assistance  for  Needy Families  (TANF)  and  all                                                                    
other  Division  of  Public Assistance  determinations.  She                                                                    
noted that there  was currently a backlog.  She relayed that                                                                    
the  department  had brought  back  former  Director of  the                                                                    
Division  of  Public  Assistance  Ron Kreher  to  help  work                                                                    
through the backlog.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson  addressed  the  payment  system  and                                                                    
relayed that  DHSS was in  litigation with Xerox  because it                                                                    
needed  the company  to  significantly  improve the  payment                                                                    
amount and the timeliness of  payment. She detailed that the                                                                    
litigation was currently before  an administrative law judge                                                                    
as required by  contract; the state was  seeking $64 million                                                                    
in  liquidated  damages.  She added  that  the  hearing  was                                                                    
scheduled  for February  2015. The  department  had hired  a                                                                    
company called Navigant to look  at the codes and to provide                                                                    
an assessment.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:06:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson wondered if  the state was $64 million                                                                    
behind  in  payments  to  providers.  Commissioner  Davidson                                                                    
replied  that the  figure did  not  necessarily reflect  the                                                                    
behind payments.  She detailed that the  liquidated payments                                                                    
were  the workarounds  that DHSS  healthcare services  staff                                                                    
had to  do in  order to process  payments because  the Xerox                                                                    
system was unable to process the payments in a timely way.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Wilson wondered how  far behind the state was                                                                    
in payments to providers. She  was hoping the state was more                                                                    
caught up than it had been  the prior year. She wondered how                                                                    
many  individuals were  waiting  to determine  if they  were                                                                    
eligible.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MARGARET BRODIE, DIRECTOR,  HEALTH CARE SERVICES, DEPARTMENT                                                                    
OF  HEALTH AND  SOCIAL SERVICES,  responded that  there were                                                                    
still a  very small number  of providers that were  not able                                                                    
to be paid.  The department had not needed  to make advances                                                                    
to providers in  several weeks. Additionally, it  was on the                                                                    
verge of  fixing a problem in  order to pay the  majority of                                                                    
claims correctly.  The backlog included the  reprocessing of                                                                    
all claims  from inception. She relayed  that the department                                                                    
was  working to  prioritize the  claims because  it was  not                                                                    
possible  to process  them  all at  one  time. She  believed                                                                    
claims would be paid accurately  across the board by the end                                                                    
of   February.  The   majority  of   the  claims   would  be                                                                    
reprocessed by  the end of  the fiscal year, but  some would                                                                    
fall into the upcoming fiscal year.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler  informed  members  that  the  committee                                                                    
would have a subcommittee meeting on Medicaid expansion.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Davidson    communicated   the   department's                                                                    
recognition of the significant  payment problem. The current                                                                    
focus with Xerox  was on issues related  to getting payments                                                                    
out the  door. The work the  Medicaid Management Information                                                                    
Service  was supposed  to do  was  beyond getting  providers                                                                    
paid;  those issues  had been  put on  hold until  providers                                                                    
were paid.  The administration  understood that  Medicaid in                                                                    
its  current form  was not  sustainable;  therefore, it  was                                                                    
undertaking  an  effort  to   focus  on  a  Medicaid  reform                                                                    
package. The  department would  explore options  to maximize                                                                    
100  percent  FMAP (e.g.  working  with  tribal and  federal                                                                    
partners).   She   noted    that   there   were   tremendous                                                                    
opportunities  to  learn  lessons  from  other  states.  She                                                                    
addressed how the state managed  the care of its population;                                                                    
it  continued  to   pay  for  incidents  of   care  and  not                                                                    
necessarily  for  outcomes.   There  were  opportunities  to                                                                    
extend other provider types that  currently happen in tribal                                                                    
health  through behavioral  health  aides, community  health                                                                    
aides,   dental   health    aide   therapists,   and   nurse                                                                    
practitioners.   There    were   also    great   tele-health                                                                    
opportunities; the  department believed savings  would occur                                                                    
if   it  utilized   the   services   more  effectively   and                                                                    
efficiently.   She   believed   there   would   be   savings                                                                    
opportunities in tele-health throughout the state.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson moved to  slide 23 and addressed child                                                                    
welfare,  the department's  second  area  of primary  focus.                                                                    
There  were currently  over  2,400  children in  out-of-home                                                                    
placements. She  stressed the  importance of  maximizing the                                                                    
state's  relationships  in  order to  improve  outcomes  for                                                                    
children. She  addressed tribal and federal  partnerships on                                                                    
slide 24, the department's third  primary area of focus. She                                                                    
communicated that  given where the  state had been  with its                                                                    
tribal  and  federal  partnerships  she  thought  focus  was                                                                    
necessary in  order to do  partnerships well.  She furthered                                                                    
that there  were many barriers that  could impede collective                                                                    
efforts in the area of  tribal and federal partnerships. She                                                                    
emphasized  that   the  state,   tribes,  and   the  federal                                                                    
government  could not  do the  work alone.  She stated  that                                                                    
even  two  of the  three  groups  working together  was  not                                                                    
sufficient. She  spoke to the  importance of  leveraging the                                                                    
partnerships.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson  addressed the fourth area  of primary                                                                    
focus:  "Improving the  health  status  of Alaskans"  (slide                                                                    
25). She  relayed that more  detail would be  provided later                                                                    
on by the  Division of Public Health. She  detailed that Dr.                                                                    
Butler  would  present  on recreational  marijuana  and  the                                                                    
impacts  on health  the following  day in  the Senate  State                                                                    
Affairs Committee. She communicated  that the department was                                                                    
responsible for  informing the  public about  health impacts                                                                    
of  marijuana.  She  pointed to  five  recommendations  from                                                                    
Governor Bill Walker's 2014 DHSS  transition report on slide                                                                    
26.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:13:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson thanked  members for  the opportunity                                                                    
to address the committee.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Guttenberg pointed  to  item 4  on slide  26                                                                    
"health  care cost  and  affordability."  He commented  that                                                                    
Alaska's healthcare  costs were rising faster  than those in                                                                    
other states. He wondered if  there was an ongoing effort to                                                                    
determine healthcare cost drivers in the state.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner   Davidson  replied   that  the   efforts  were                                                                    
underway. She  elaborated that  it was also  one of  the key                                                                    
opportunities    in    Medicaid   reform.    She    believed                                                                    
opportunities existed  in how the state  paid for healthcare                                                                    
services. She  thought the  state was  the largest  buyer of                                                                    
healthcare   services   in   Alaska   including   healthcare                                                                    
purchased  for  state   employees,  retirees,  and  Medicaid                                                                    
beneficiaries.   The   department    believed   there   were                                                                    
opportunities to  work together  more efficiently  to reduce                                                                    
costs.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Neuman  recalled  his  prior work  with  the  DHSS                                                                    
finance   subcommittee.   He   spoke  about   a   trip   the                                                                    
subcommittee took to  Fairbanks the prior year  to meet with                                                                    
department staff. He discussed  work done by OCS caseworkers                                                                    
and  how many  rural areas  had  no cell  phone coverage  or                                                                    
internet. He  remarked on the cumbersome  and time consuming                                                                    
paperwork   caseworkers  were   required  to   complete.  He                                                                    
recalled reading  that 800 state  jobs would be lost  due to                                                                    
budget reductions in  the current year. He  commented on the                                                                    
impact  the  lost   jobs  would  have  on   the  economy  in                                                                    
communities. He  discussed thousands  of jobs that  would be                                                                    
lost due to  the budget deficit. He  discussed the continued                                                                    
growth in  healthcare. He surmised  that the job  loss would                                                                    
impact  families  and   would  increase  domestic  violence,                                                                    
substance  abuse,  child  abuse,   and  sexual  assault.  He                                                                    
stressed that  the abuses hurt  society more  than anything.                                                                    
He  spoke about  legislation he  had worked  on in  the past                                                                    
related to "Jessica's  law." He stated that in  the past the                                                                    
annual cost  to Alaska  for the abuses  was $45  million. He                                                                    
added  that the  current cost  far exceeded  the amount.  He                                                                    
discussed   working  to   ensure  that   jobs  remained   in                                                                    
communities. He wondered how the  department would deal with                                                                    
the issues.  He asked for  a copy  of a plan  the department                                                                    
was working to devise.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:21:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson addressed  that slow  internet was  a                                                                    
challenge  because  it  inhibited  work of  the  staff.  She                                                                    
detailed  that the  DHSS  information  technology staff  had                                                                    
been  working  with  the  Department  of  Administration  on                                                                    
increasing  throughput  to  increase  internet  speeds.  The                                                                    
department recognized  that people  could not work  and fill                                                                    
out online forms if they could  not be done in a timely way.                                                                    
She  agreed that  job  loss would  occur  because the  state                                                                    
could not continue to afford  the level of government it had                                                                    
grown accustomed to.  She remarked that DHSS  was not immune                                                                    
to  budget  cuts  that  would   occur.  She  concurred  that                                                                    
terrible things did happen in  families and communities when                                                                    
people  were   under  tremendous  financial   pressure.  She                                                                    
stressed that  the challenges would  be bigger if  the state                                                                    
did  not   do  Medicaid  expansion.  She   appreciated  that                                                                    
Medicaid  expansion   required  behavioral   health  parity,                                                                    
meaning  that it  would pay  for behavioral  health services                                                                    
for alcohol  treatment and other substance  abuse treatment.                                                                    
She emphasized  that treatment was  one of the only  ways to                                                                    
stop the cycle. She elaborated  that a significant number of                                                                    
juvenile  justice and  corrections  cases  were alcohol  and                                                                    
drug  related.  She  noted that  the  Division  of  Juvenile                                                                    
Justice  would  report  to  the committee  on  its  work  to                                                                    
address  recidivism  by   providing  treatment  services  to                                                                    
youths in a  way that disrupted the cycle.  She relayed that                                                                    
a  significant  percentage  of people  Alaska's  jails  were                                                                    
either  awaiting  sentencing  or   trial  for  drug  related                                                                    
charges. She  stressed the  importance of  behavioral health                                                                    
programs; it was necessary to  change the way people thought                                                                    
about substance  abuse. She emphasized that  children should                                                                    
not grow up believing substance  abuse was normal. She added                                                                    
that the efforts would take time.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:25:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt thanked  the commissioner  for taking                                                                    
on her role in the department.  He addressed slide 25 and an                                                                    
upcoming presentation  related to marijuana. He  wondered if                                                                    
the administration  would take a  larger role in  helping to                                                                    
determine the  direction the state would  head pertaining to                                                                    
marijuana. He wondered  when to expect it. He  wanted to see                                                                    
the direction from the administration.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson did not want  to get ahead of what the                                                                    
governor planned  pertaining to recreational  marijuana use.                                                                    
She noted that DHSS had  a tremendous opportunity to educate                                                                    
the  public  via  a  public health  message  or  other.  The                                                                    
department was  currently addressing  whether it  made sense                                                                    
for the state to have  a public health website communicating                                                                    
information about the  drug to young people  such as impacts                                                                    
and  dangers. She  stated that  unfortunately the  state did                                                                    
not  currently have  a public  health message  posted online                                                                    
pertaining to marijuana.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Pruitt  surmised  that something  should  be                                                                    
expected  from the  governor. Commissioner  Davidson replied                                                                    
that she would follow up on the question at a later time.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Pruitt  requested specifics on  what Medicaid                                                                    
reform meant. He  wanted to know what statutes  needed to be                                                                    
changed and what role the  legislature could play in getting                                                                    
to the reform discussion. He  wondered if the state would be                                                                    
changing some of the services  it offered under Medicaid. He                                                                    
noted  that every  state had  different  levels of  services                                                                    
provided. He opined that services  provided in Alaska tended                                                                    
to be fairly  good. He believed the only way  to address the                                                                    
issue  was through  statutory changes.  He  wondered if  the                                                                    
administration would  look for leadership on  the topic from                                                                    
the  legislature.  He   requested  that  the  administration                                                                    
indicate where it would like to see support come from.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:30:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gara discussed that  a healthcare policy task                                                                    
force  been established  eight  years  earlier. He  remarked                                                                    
that  for  years  the  legislature   had  not  received  any                                                                    
information on the reports. He  relayed that Co-Chair Neuman                                                                    
had suggested going  through the reports the  prior year. He                                                                    
spoke to  one of the recommendations  related to transparent                                                                    
healthcare  pricing. He  noted  that the  strategy had  been                                                                    
successful  in  other  locations.   He  requested  that  the                                                                    
legislature keep  working with the  task force. He  spoke to                                                                    
the importance  of listening  to ideas  from the  task force                                                                    
that would  cut medical costs.  He stressed that one  of the                                                                    
largest cost  drivers facing state  government was  the rise                                                                    
in  medical   costs.  He   discussed  the   state's  payment                                                                    
responsibility.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Saddler  recognized Representative  Liz Vazquez's                                                                    
presence in the  room. He asked what kind  of reductions the                                                                    
department was  likely to  look for  in the  upcoming fiscal                                                                    
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner Davidson  replied that  DHSS had been  asked to                                                                    
cut  5 percent  from its  budget. She  did not  have further                                                                    
detail at present.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Commissioner  Davidson made  clarifying comments  related to                                                                    
Medicaid reform.  She relayed  that the  state was  early in                                                                    
the  process related  to  the reform  and  was committed  to                                                                    
implementing  reform  responsibly.  She  detailed  that  the                                                                    
administration wanted  to be  sure to  explore opportunities                                                                    
other states  were looking at.  The administration  was open                                                                    
to  ideas that  would  allow services  to  be provided  more                                                                    
efficiently  and that  would act  as  a safety  net for  the                                                                    
state's  most vulnerable  population. She  relayed that  Dr.                                                                    
Butler  would   begin  chairing   the  Alaska   Health  Care                                                                    
Commission. She  shared that  she had been  a member  on the                                                                    
commission for  many years. She underscored  that the entity                                                                    
had been tasked  by the legislature to  develop a healthcare                                                                    
policy and  plan for the  state. She had been  frustrated in                                                                    
the past  that the  commission had been  told that  it could                                                                    
not talk about  the federal Affordable Care  Act or Medicaid                                                                    
expansion.  She believed  that ignoring  the largest  change                                                                    
that had happened in healthcare law  was not the best way to                                                                    
look  at developing  a  sound and  prudent  health plan  for                                                                    
Alaska. She  noted that  looking at the  items did  not mean                                                                    
the state  would be  required to adopt  all of  changes. She                                                                    
believed  it  was important  to  have  the ability  to  have                                                                    
conversations out in the open.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Saddler  remarked  that  the  ball  was  in  the                                                                    
department's court.  He relayed that the  first subcommittee                                                                    
meeting would  be at 9:00  am on  January 28. He  passed the                                                                    
gavel to Co-Chair Neuman.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Neuman lauded the department  for its hard workers.                                                                    
He discussed the schedule for the following day.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:36:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The meeting was adjourned at 3:36 p.m.                                                                                          

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